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    October 23, 2012
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♪ captioned by closed captioning services, inc >> eric: hello. i'm eric bolling with andrea tantaros, bob beckel, dana perino, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: exactly two weeks until we know who will lead america for four or eight years. last night, the final one-on-one debate between the two candidates. the forum was buzzing with anticipation. the sense of just how much was at stake, made the mood tense and historic. 90 minutes of two political gladiators doing battle in boca. afterwards, both sides claimed victory. here is how some of the seasoned and political minds saw the debate. >> mitt romney has the
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demeanor, the temperament, the principles, the skills, to be a great person policy president. >> what governor romney showed today and i felt badly because it's clear he is not ready to be the commander-in-chief of the united states military. >> nobody won. it was a draw. >> boring. so boring. it was the most boring debate i've ever seen. >> governor romney, while he may have "lost the debate" looked like a commander-in-chief. and presented himself in a presidential way. >> i think the president was very aggressive and it's hoard win a debate when you're not in that mode. >> i think it's unequivocal, romney won. not just tactically, but strategically. >> eric: so, let's each take a minute or so and call the debate the way we saw it. bob has promised he won't interrupt anyone. start with andrea and run around the table. what did you think? >> andrea: i think it was probably a draw. it's supposed to be boring. it's foreign policy debate not
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episode of "the a team." romney had one job, to convince the american people he cou job. obama's job was to convince romney he couldn't. i think that he failed at that. i think rom knew yesterday where the obama camp would go, to paint him as a warmonger. he knew where they would throw the ball. he looked like a dove. he played that very, very well. i thought he was very appealing to women. and to independents. he's very interesting, romney. last night, barack obama was trying to reach to his base. if you're 14 days out from an election and still worried about your base, you have very big problems. >> eric: bob, do you see it same way? >> i see it the way every poll showed it, that obama won. when charles krauthammer says strategic, i don't know what is strategic about what romney said in that debate. the guy was outclassed when it
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came to substance. he said we should not announce date for withdrawal from afghanistan and he did. he stuck to 2014 like the president of the united states had. when you were all making a big deal out of libya, i don't know how many words romney spent on libya -- >> greg: three. >> bob: three words? >> greg: three words. >> bob: you just interrupted me. >> dana: that was helping. >> bob: there are times that romney said i agree with the president, i agree with the president. who is kidding who? >> andrea: you hate him when he disagrees and hate him when he agrees. >> bob: the waffleer he is. >> eric: i'll go. take it around. it couldn't figure out what is going on, sitting in the spin room watching this. people are watching and i saw president obama being aggression i and i saw romney let the conversation move on to wherever president obama wanted to go. even when bob schieffer wanted to move him on, he was kay
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with it. 30 in i realized what he was doing. he is going to, he feelings he has the base. he wants to lock down the female vote. he has proven he can be tough. showing he can be a tough president. this one he wanted to prove he could be a statesman. he could be well thought out. and not what thelet has been trying to paint him as, most recently. as a warmonger. i think if that is the litmus test, number one, i think he won. but number two, the reason he did that, they have internal polling to say he's in the lead. >> dana: there was a delay reaction. some people went to bed thinking oh, he could have got him on this and that. waking up in the morning you think that was the smarter way to handle it. it was a wise decision. what you want in a president is someone you think is wiser than you.
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there was a peace on national review where he said romney came and he decided to woo, not to fight. rivals dual over global leadership. that's what o'reilly said, saying it's boring. but borin boring in a foreign py debate for challenger is a win. >> greg: the winner was my liquor store. it drank a lot of wine. the loser was my wife who had to put up with me after i had been drinking. the media won. now they can say that obama won big. a tie between somebody who had experience for four years and somebody with no foreign policy experience at all. obama is expected to do okay. he has been doing it. romney oddly enough appeared more presidential than the guy who had the job. obama for some reason looked
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like the challenger. that blew my mind. the other winner this is conservatism in the sense when a liberal runs for president, he starts talking like a security. it's all of a sudden about security, not cutting defense. talking about strengths. conservatism is the go-to stance when you want to win. become one? >> eric: very good. very good. all right, so we each picked our favorite moment from the debate. going to do "the five" style and start with dana. >> dana: sure. well, if you'd like. >> eric: start with dana. >> dana: i believe that this phrase, these six words summed up -- five words if you contract two words to one. sums up the entire campaign from the obama sand point of attacking romney. take a look. >> we're talking about the middle east. and how to help the middle east reject the kind of terrorism we're seeing and the rising tide of tumult and confusion. and attacking me is not an
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agenda. attacking me is not talking about how we're going to deal with the challenges that exist in the middle east and take advantage of the opportunity there. and stem the tide of this violence. >> dana: i thought that right there it basically summed it up. attacking me isn't an agenda. most of the people for the past six weeks after the first debate are like wait a second, what would obama do in a second term? all he has done is destroy and ridicule his challenger with disdain and disrespect. you know what? people don't like it. that's why romney has been doing better everywhere. >> eric: a couple of adjectives out there. romney looked presidential. diplomatic and a statesman. barack obama, especially when you put the double shot up there, when both of them are on the screen, president obama looks like a bully. he looked cond scending. he had -- condescending. he looked smug. facial expression. he didn't look good. there are a lot of people who are swayed by just the facial expressions between them. >> bob: who would you rather have up against irain glance
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negotiations? >> dana: romney. >> greg: no-brainer. >> andrea: if i thought obama would sit down with ahmadinejad and they'd talk it out. >> bob: romney was -- are you kidding me? he looked presidential? >> andrea: he looked like member of the council on foreign relations. obama looked like he was defending his dissertation. dana, you made a good point when you said romney wanted it to look boring. president obama didn't. he wanted it to be raucous and he did it in the prong way. i thought is he trying to get zingers, even in places that don't if it. like i have to needle him throughout the debate. not think about policy. >> eric: take your favorite moment of the debate. >> andrea: my favorite moment is where president obama confuses political foe with biggest threat. and he came out and he was trying to nail president on confusing al-qaeda and russia. nail him on the fact that romney said russia is our
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biggest threat. romney turned it around i thought answered it just masterfully. take a listen. >> russia, i indicated is a geo political foe. not -- excuse me. geopolitical foe. in the same paragraph i said iran is the greatest national security threat we face. russia does continue to battle us in the u.n. time and time again. i have clear eyes on this. i'm not going to wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to russia or mr. putin. i'm certainly not going to say i'll give you more flexibility after the election. >> andrea: i thought that it was a very naive attempt by the president to score political point it. he confused that russia is geopolitical foe. we battle them at the u.n. and the other is a terror organization. the fact that the president tried to lump it in and hit it on that, he missed the mark. romney was able to make the distinction and look shrewd. >> bob: the fact that romney would suggest iran is
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biggest-threat and doesn't make china, who is clear through biggest threat to the united states, you are talking about iran, a third rate nation -- >> dana: iran who is threatening nuclear war? >> bob: threatening to build a knic nuclear weapon. >> greg: support -- china supportser the not the way iran does. >> dana: iran is funding terrornist iraq killing our troops. >> andrea: that is his point. >> dana: president obama got it wrong also when he said that china is the adversary. that's not what the secretary of state said. i thought president obama had terrible debate on merits and he gets the biggest things wrong. he came up with the defense cut idea, sequestions administration, a boring -- sequestration. >> bob: what do you mean? it was -- >> dana: do you believe bob woodward's book that said obama team came up with sequestration? >> bob: if you think the deal was cut without republicans agreeing to it.
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>> eric: even more disturbing is president obama said don't worry about sequestration. i have it taken care of. what do you mean? >> dana: he said it's not going to happen. >> eric: meaning is the second term of obama a bunch of i'm going to run around congress, i'm not going to talk to senators but what we'll do. we'll do it -- >> bob: it has to get done by january 1. first term of obama anyway. >> greg: this reflects the whole president obama, you don't know his foreign policy. it will out get taken care of after he wins the second term, the whole thing with the putin, promising putin. we don't know. we are in the dark. we're not sure if he knows. what you said in green room, romney seems to know obama's foreign policy more than obama does. >> dana: better than obama. >> eric: get this in. one more in before we go to break. for me, my favorite moment, unfortunately it wasn't until 53 minutes in to the debate. take a listen to the apology tour. obama called out and president obama pushed back on.
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watch. >> the president began what i call an apology tour, going to the various nations in the middle east and criticizing america. >> nothing governor romney said is true. starting with this notion of me apologizing. this has been probably the biggest whopper that has been told during the course of this campaign. >> mr. president, the reason i call it an "apology tour" is because you went to the middle east and you flew to egypt, and to saudi arabia, and to turkey and iraq. you skipped israel, by the way, our closest friend in the region. you went to the other nations. they noticed you skipped israel. >> eric: they noticed. israel noticed and so did all of our enemies. >> bob: he was in israel doing a fundraiser, the fact he did stop and talked to one u.s. troop in afghanistan -- >> dana: there is only one candidate who has taken foreign money in this campaign. >> bob: excuse me. >> dana: not romney. >> bob: romney had a fundraiser in jerusalem. >> eric: stay on president
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obama. >> bob: that's what you want to do -- he didn't apologize for america. >> eric: romney said mr. president, apologetic for america. >> bob: pick up the right wing crap about apology tour, which is ridiculous. >> it's not. bowing and saying we have been dismissive. even divisive. >> eric: we have to go. january 2009, my job to the muslim world is communicate that america is not your enemy. we sometimes make mistakes. april, america like every -- >> bob: that is an apology? >> eric: makes mistakes and has flaws. united states has done peace, prosperity and we have at times been disengage and at times we sought to dictate our terms. i have more. >> bob: that is an apology? that's what you call an apology tour? >> greg: can i make a point. what bob is saying is correct. what you're saying is correct. that is the problem with president obama. is that he always says i never said that. but he means it. his actions dictate an apology but he never has to say "i'm sorry" when he talking about
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mistakes. that's how he weasels out of the things. i never said i was sorry. you didn't have to say you're sorry. >> bob: do you have an apology quote using "apology"? >> eric: i'll use it in the next block. we're not close to being finished with last night, the hottest moments, best zingers and gaps are coming up. keep it right here on "the five." ♪ ♪
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>> greg: a horrible, crushing defeat. giants destroyed the cardinals last knight. >> the giants win the pennant. 9-nothing, the final if game seven. speaking of cardinals, last night's debate was for the birds. for me anyway. like a parent at a little league game that invested too much in the outcome. i was screaming one word at the tv over and over and over again. "libya! libya! libya!"
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this is not unusual. it was the name of an ex-girlfriend. i was streaming "who told you to blame the video?" the same thing i said to an ex-girlfriend. my point is i wish mitt would have creamed obama with libya. in the debate, obama accused romney of being all over the map. a phrase that deserved the rejoinder all over the map, mr. president. what is your latest line on libya? you delivered more whoppers than burger king. perhaps mitt made a conscious decision to stay presidential and avoid looking war-like. it worked in that it appears the president bail. any time his back is to the wall. obama gets is notty. without the media to shield them, he gets smaller. it haven't seen a middle age men desperate since the last time alec bald world cup was married. if obama gained ground, only among spoiled brats. they sensed the media response if they went hard on the idol. you saw what they did with the binders. he took the high road and saying i can do the job.
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not be a jerk. do you think he missed an opportunity? >> dana: no. >> greg: we talked about ut iton the show. for six weeks. he was measured and presidential. that ensures he will never be on "the five." if he had gone after romney on libya, say something went wrong. and obama took offense, like how dare you? that would have been the headline today. now we are done with foreign
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policy debate and we can focus on the economy. >> eric: it took me 30 minutes to figure out that is what is going on. especially when mitt romney wanted to answer one of the questions early. first, only five minutes on libya. then they went to 12 to 13 minutes on syria. because he let schieffer move them on, he didn't do that when he was arguing with let's say lehrer or even crowley. he didn't do that. it's clear that the attention was to come up, presidential states like. >> dana: add one little thing? it was very smart. you know that president obama in debate prep spent all this time thinking about lib yeah. figuring out all the things he would say on libya. what did we say when? romney said he -- >> that is why he didn't do it. he knew he would be ready for that answer. i think that oh, how dare you moment happened the last time. it probably rattled romney a little bit. from day one, campaign that
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played it safe. this is how they operate for a while. i also think that they realize president obama is in the soup on this one. he really is in trouble. mired with questions. in politics they always say if your opponent is committing suicide, just get out of the way. >> bob: amazing to hear you say this now. you, you, you, all said ought to make it libya from the beginning. now you're saying gee, what a smart measured move. >> dana: it was smart. >> bob: the only reason was he didn't get into it, because obama is right about it. romney is wrong. if this is going to make a bit of voting difference at all. like i said, from the beginning. we had to carry it every day. >> eric: as a poller, is f he is polling ahead does it make sense to step in on libya at all? >> bob: you thought it did. >> dana: what we're saying that romney is smarter than all of us. what you want in the president, you want your president to be smarter than you. have a cooler head. >> andrea: we want him to go
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to that place. >> --t him -- >> greg: understand, bob said obama is doing great on libya. that's the reason he shouldn't talk about it. does that make sense? >> dana: sure. >> greg: bob, what is your favorite moment? >> bob: my favorite moment, run it up here quickly. romney's entire strategy according to charles krauthammer. got it? >> i congratulate him on taking out usama bin laden and going after the leadership in al-qaeda. >> would you have stuck with mubarak? >> no. i believe as the president indicated and said at the time i supported his action there. it's also essential for to us understand what our mission is iran. crippling sanctions were number one. and they do work. you're seeing eight rye now in the economy. it's the right thing to do to have crippling sanctions. i don't blame the administration for the fact that the relationship with pakistan is strained. it's widely reported that drones are used and drone strikes. it support that entirely. feel the president was right to up the usage of that
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technology. >> bob: mitt, you might want to have a single solitaire thought of your own and might help you out, my friend. do you want to agree with the president everything and concede he is a better foreign policy president than you will ever be. >> greg: i think they could be running mates but obama v.p. >> eric: do you see the one condescending comment from obama and say realize you haven't had an opportunity to put in place any foreign policy. >> dana: it's such -- got the biggest chip on his shoulder. someone ought to knock it off. >> bob: someone ought to knock it off. >> dana: i'm telling you, that kind of condescending attitude is telling 51% of the people out there they're not for me. there is no presidential, there is no graciousness and dignity to what president obama is saying to him. >> bob: you have three polls confirm that obama won the debate. >> dana: bob, 52-50 debate where you get no bounce is not a win. this is not going to help president obama at all. evidenced by all the things that are happening today.
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>> andrea: you don't think it was a brilliant move for him? >> bob: no. god no. big as deal you said it was he shouldn't have concedeed it but he didn't because it wasn't that big of a deal. >> andrea: strategic 100%. >> greg: bob, bob? >> bob: yes. >> greg: "the five" debate analysis continues next. plus, i lost a pair of pants somewhere. if anyone finds them drop them off at the port authority lost and found. there will be a small reward. ♪ ♪
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obama talking about russia. something. >> governor romney, i'm glad that you recognize al-qaeda is a threat. a few month months ago you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical threat facing america you said russia. not al-qaeda. you said russia. the 1980s are calling to ask for the foreign policy back. the cold war has been over for 20 years. >> greg: president obama, the 1990s call and they want something from the past called joke back. >> dana: call waiting and it was the jerk store. >> greg: nicely done! >> andrea: they also want the mom jeans back. >> greg: i would been a that. -- iwould ban that. >> dana: you know they planned it for him to say it whole time. he had to get it in there. >> andrea: forced zinger. >> dana: this is a gaffe but basically encapsulates what many people think is wrong with the current question, the way he presents things. >> across the board we eastern
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gaming them in building capacity in the country and stood on the side of democracy. one thing i think americans should be proud of when tunisias began to protest, this nation, me, stood with them before any other country. >> dana: it would be i. >> andrea: that is a gaffe. >> dana: leave it a that. it went over like a lead balloon. >> eric: he loves that word. >> andrea: he does not have a self-esteem problem. eric, gaffe, zin eger or fact check. >> eric: fact check. roll it. >> i like american cars and i would do nothing to hurt the u.s. auto industry. i said they need, the companies need to go through a managed bankruptcy. and in that process, they can get government help and government guarantees. >> governor romney, that is not what you said. >> did not say you would provide help. you keep on trying to air
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brush history here. >> you're wrong, mr. president. >> i am not wrong. >> people can look it up. you're right. >> people will look it up. >> eric: i looked it up. from november 18, 2008, the "new york times." it's called let detroit go bankrupt. the problem is mr. president, that is a "new york times" written headline title. he didn't write that. guess what happens on the last page? rerecommends the government getting involved in the auto. and he says the federal government should provide guarantees for post bankruptcy managed bankruptcy. financing ensure car buyers the warranties are not at risk. romney not trying to air brush history. you vo v to read the article. >> bob: and we'd have no u.s. auto companies. mine is a -- well, let me put hit the way. be charitable about this. romney walking the streets. for his dear friends in china making money for him. take american jobs. >> dana: wow! >> china can be our partner,
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but that doesn't mean they can just roll all over us and steal our jobs on an unfair basis. >> eric: governor romney is right. >> you are familiar with jobs being sent overseas because you invest in companies shifting jobs overseas. >> bob: the president was talking, mitt romney involved in a number of investments in china, which lost american jobs. he went so soft on the biggest security threat to the united states. romney, you better wake up and understand that china is the biggest security threat to the united states. >> dana: right. okay. >> bob: the fact you're not doing that is you are partners with them. business venture. wait a second. let me finish. >> andrea: the president called him aned a ve sar last night. >> bob: excuse me. i said romney better understand it's a serious deal here. you ought to get out of bed with the chinese and get in bed with the united states. >> dana: oh, my goodness. i'm going to have a heart
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attack. >> romney hasn't spent enough time looking at how the military works. you mention we have fewer ships than 1916. we also have fewer horses and bayonettes because the nature of the military has changed. we have things called aircraft carrier where planes land on them. >> andrea: first, we still use bayonettes, so maybe the commander-in-chief which rereferred to himself many times should know that. my point is it's a gaffe. i thought the tone last night, that the president took is the jones stewartifiication of politics. are you smarter than a fifth grader? are you more mature than a fifth grader, mr. president? you dressed down romney. it was sarcastic and i guess it's supposed to be funny. turned out to be wrong. they have done this campaign. >> bob: why is it wrong again? >> andrea: it turns women off.
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>> it turns women off he is trying to -- >> bob: it's archaic. >> eric: wait. instead, binders, big bird and bayonettes. no one is talking about benghazi. >> andrea: want to know what obama's agenda would be if he wins? he put out his game plan for the next four years. dana has details when we come back. ♪ ♪
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i'm bret baier if washington. the big store here, two weeks to go until election day. presidential election, that is. tonight on "special report," mitt romney is trying to ride the momentum to the white house. we'll look at where the republican challenger stands in the polls and the strategy down the home stretch. president obama is rolling out
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a last minute second term agenda. president bowing to pressure from republicans and some democrats to provide specifics. how many are in there. numbers are thrown around in last night's debate. a terrible day on wall street following disappointing earning reports. dow plunging 243 points. we'll get information on the probe in libya scandal and terror attack on u.s. mission in benghazi. senate intelligence committee chambliss joins us live. "the five" in new york now. >> you can't change washington, d.c. from inside. if you don't think you can change washington from inside the white house, let's get you a plane ticket back to chicago you earned. if he believes that, if he believes that, what the hell is doing asking for another four years?
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>> dana: i always want chris christie on my side. if you wonder why president obama should get another four years the answer is all the shiny new 20-page booklet that president obama, his campaign released today. they printed 3.5 million copy of the plan. basically, no reporter that covers the campaign was fooled in terms of thinking this is a new thing. was that strike? >> eric: i thought it was great. literally, president obama cut him off. he went to education and teachers and firefighters. mitt said bob schieffer asked him about the economy. no, talk about teachers again. very strange. mitt was looking for no confrontation last night. i would like to have seen more on the economy.
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>> dana: bob, for the last month or, so one refrain has been for the democrats against romney he hasn't detailed the $5 trillion tax cut. everybody is asking for more information about it. romney maintained he provided that. then four weeks ago you started to see the mainstream media saying wait a second. what is president obama's second term agenda again? do you think the booklet was in reaction to that? >> a lot of the booklet is legislation, installed on the house of representatives because the republicans won't let it off. he has an agenda. go back to christie for a second. does anybody notice how little we have seen of christie? he was hard to miss. have we noticed that? >> dana: is there any personal attack you won't make? >> eric: he is running the state of new jersey. maybe that has something to do with it. >> bob: he was out all the time in primary season. >> dana: what do you think of the new policies not so new in the book? >> andrea: better late than never. 14 days out and he decides to put an agenda i didn't see anything different in it. how do i know the headlines
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will be different if four years than they are now? i know you don't like chris christie, i love him i love when he says get the hell off the beach, that the hell are you doing asking for another four years? he said obama said he wasn't able to change washington. he's never in washington! how can he change washington? he has been campaigning for four years. >> dana: the bam become campaign given -- obama campaign given kudos for the digitization but they printed 3.5 hard copy books? >> 20-page booklet about obama, isn't that "newsweek"? came out instructions on how to bow. if re-elected it will be printed in chinese. a good point. 3.5 million copies. how many trees is that? isn't injustice an outrage?
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>> bob: welcome back to "the five." five hot political stories. i'll start.
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todd akin, congressman for missouri, running against claire mccaskill was, when he came out with a statement and introduced a bill that women cannot get pregnant from legitimate rape. cosponsored by paul ryan i might add. then everybody abandoned him. the republicans fled. they pulled their money out. everybody went everywhere they could. what happens now? it's dead even race. he may win, which is amazing to me but might say something about the new republican party. >> dana: are you saying that the legislation he said women can't get pregnant from rape? >> bob: legitimate rape. >> dana: that's not what it says. it was a stupid comment he made. >> bob: did he not say legitimate rape? >> dana: he did but he didn't put it in the legislation cosponsored by paul ryan. >> andrea: why would you try to link it to paul ryan.
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people don't like claire mccaskill. that's why the polls are like that. >> greg: am i up? got a fundraising letter from president obama. read it. i don't want to lose the election. not because of what losing would mean for me, michelle and i will be fine. but what it means for middle class families. blah, blah blah. i stopped reading this. he believes that voters are more concerned for his future than the country. this man is more self-centered than the sun. >> dana: ohio is important. obama gets credit for having better ground game there. but it might be spin.
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if you look at the numbers, 700 voter contact, three times than 2008. democrats underperforming in the early votes by 7.32%. if you want to be precise. republican made 3.7 million volunteer contract in ohio. that poll said 47 h 467 in ohio. that's probably right. >> eric: i was at the debate last night. take you through a picture montage. everyone started to talk the spin room. people holding up names and talking. my favorite picture of them all. one more? next? david axelrod, he tried to avoid me.
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>> andrea: so weird, he wouldn't hug you. >> andrea: everybody started to ask the big question. is it over? an finally the main stream media are starting to write the law. a tweet sent out by abc terry moran that said, "tick, tick, tick." for weeks the movement has been unmistakenly toward romney. hard to turn it around in october. that's very true. then there was msnbc's chuck todd said the president has big problems and is running out of time. and said that he missed an opportunity in the first debate and he has to requalify himself for a second term. the glossy portfolio he put together today. the binder, i should say, of the suggestions from the last three years won't work. >> bob: okay. one more thing is up next. >> andrea: you're not going to yell? >> bob: nope. >> andrea: all right. grumpy. ♪ ♪
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>> eric: time for a fun one more thing. >> bob: last week on the o'reilly factor i had comments that made frank lupt and his procedures and models that he used putting together focus groups of which he does many for various shows on fox. some interpreted them as criticism of luntz. frank and i had discussions about this for several years. i've been done focus groups
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for long, long time. he uses a different model than i do. not a critique of him but a critique of his modeling. he and i have talked about it. he is a friend of mine and competent pollster. that's the best i can say. >> greg: we'll have a focus group later at my apartment. we are not looking at everything. >> andrea: what do you give people for showing up? >> greg: their lives. >> eric: i'll go next. fun story this morning on the way back. i flew up in at the crack of dawn this morning, sitting next to a gentleman talking about the debate. he said yeah, romney seem presidential. outlined his vision for the country. i said yeah, what else did you see? he said i saw obama attacking romney a lot. didn't think of it. fell asleep. woke up on the way the flight attendant said mr. romney, thank you for joining us on the flight. i get outside and mr. romney? george scott romney, mitt romney's brother. the whole time. happens to love the show.
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big fan. big fan of dana, especially. >> dana: well, who isn't? >> andrea: did you say nice things about his brother's performance >> eric: i think i did. >> andrea: that would be bad if you said he didn't do well >> andrea: bob and i have the segment on america's newsroom for six years. this morning, it was outed last night i wasn't watching the debate. i was at a rush concert. but i watched the debate when i got home. i got an e-mail from surprisingly the lead singer of kansas. a big deal to me. john alafonte, all the way to the right. classic rock jungie. i have older siblings and grew up in a diner. give me a break. he wrote me an e-mail and he said a message for you. he said i saw your mini debate with beckel. "who is rush?" is he in the stone age? meaning you. if i had to guess i'd say you are in your young 30s, glad to hear you're in to classic rock. i sang with kansas. he said keep it up, "the five"
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is my favorite show. classic rom bands, skynard. >> eric: stuck in '80s. >> andrea: we listen to classic rock. >> eric: was the reference earlier? >> andrea: "a-team." >> dana: tomorrow stand by for one more thing will make you go ew! tomorrow, megyn kelly, she did an interview with mrs. laura bush, former first lady and it will air tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. i'll be on with her after that. look at the clip for the interview, with advice for the current mrs. romney. oh, boy. and mrs. obama. take a look. >> get through without thoughts for me, for sure. i wish them both the best. i know what it's like. these are the last, i know people are tired. they're tired probably, because they have campaigned really. very hard. i know that the adrenaline rush of the last few weeks and few days. and election night.
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so, of course, i just wish them the best. >> dana: that will air tomorrow. mrs. bush doing rights for women and girls around the world. >> greg: you know those people? good people? banned phrase of the day is daylight. prim now using the word to describe the separation or creating a distance between objects like daylight between vailed and the united states. or -- israel and united states. or my dog casper and dana's dog jasper. it should be used to describe the horrible stuff that comes through the window in the morning and gives me an awful headache. >> eric: could it be used for the widening gap in the gasolineup will polls between romney and obama? >> greg: it can be used in that case and only that case. >> dana: it represents the difference between you and me on the libya answer in the debate last night. there was daylight between us. >> andrea: bob's enemy. because that's god's flashlight, right?